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Confused! [May. 12th, 2007|10:39 pm]
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So I was on a Catholic news website, and an article was posted. It was about comments made by Janis Pujats, head of the Catholic Church in Latvia. He described homosexuality as an”absolute depravity in sexual behavior” and a “unnatural form of prostitution.”


I swear that as Catholics we believe that if someone is gay that's not sinful. It's just the actions, and I know that's the same rule with everyone, regardless of sexual orientation.

Honestly, I find his remarks hateful and ignorant. Am I wrong to think this? I just think his comments sound like bigotry, plain and simple.
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[User Picture]From: ephraemsyrus
2007-05-13 02:47 am (UTC)
Have you a link to the text of the article, and possibly also the full text of his remarks? My suspicion is that Archbishop Pujats knows quite well the distinctions made in the Catechism, and agrees with them, and so his remarks should therefore be understood as applying to homosexual actions.
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From: contemplatio
2007-05-13 02:57 am (UTC)
perhaps he means "homosexuality" as a verb rather than as a noun and/or adjective.

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[User Picture]From: napoleonofnerds
2007-05-13 04:01 am (UTC)
It's possible they were bigoted and ignorant - no rule says bishops are always perfect and never mess up. To know that all you have to do is look at our beloved Church in Boston.

At the same time, there might be a larger context. Don't be too quick to judge. Either way, pray for him and for those in the Church who struggle with orientation and discrimination.
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[User Picture]From: wildelover
2007-05-13 04:55 am (UTC)
From what you put there it sounds as if he IS referring to the behavior, and the thing is, homosexual sex IS sinful. ALL sex that takes place outside of marriage is a sin. Adultury, premarital sex, homosexual sex...it is a sin. That's the Church's position, in my understanding, and if you think of it as a statement about the nature of sex belonging solely to the realm of marriage, it is in no way perjorative to state that homosexual activity is a sin. Was he saying this in English (which, I assume, is not his native language) or was it translated from a text in his native language (which may not carry the nuances of what he said in his own language)? I don't think it sounds like bigotry. I think it sounds perhaps insensitive, but that may be a matter of an oversensitive American cultural understanding of how people address the issue of sexuality.
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From: lyssiae
2007-05-13 09:12 am (UTC)
Were his original comments in English or another language? Don't underestimate the amount of subtle and necessary information that gets lost in translation.
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[User Picture]From: rogueblack
2007-05-13 09:38 pm (UTC)
Agreed.
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[User Picture]From: catmint_1984
2007-05-13 09:32 am (UTC)
There's something somewhere in the NT about loving the sinner but hating the sin (not sure where). I think wildelover put it really well. Context is helpful - look at what happened with the Pope not so long ago with his 14th-century quote about Islam that got taken out of context and blown out of proportion.
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From: markadm
2007-05-13 01:53 pm (UTC)
As others have said, he appears to be referring to the act.
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From: katemar
2007-05-14 04:07 am (UTC)
Hmm..it seems like he's distinguishing between homosexual orientation and homosexual behavior, so I think that would fit the Church's teaching that the action itself is what is sinful, not just being incined toward the action.
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[User Picture]From: isolani
2007-05-14 09:29 am (UTC)
“unnatural form of prostitution.”

I didn`t know there was a NATURAL form of prostitution?
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